[jcorkern]

i have never used a list, and i do ok. I believe that finding "targeted" traffic to your site is way more important and this basic principle has never done me wrong.

When i ran my SEO company(which was recently sold), my first few customers were hard to get, but after that i was easy, but i targeted people who were actively searching for my service.

Getting people who know they have a need (pain they want fixed), the rest is easy sailing as long as you produce.

someone who does a search for " bad credit mortgage refinance" must need money. someone that has troubled credit, if you can cure the pain, you have a good chance of converting.

If they search for "mortgage" or "loan calculator" then your chance of converting are a lot less. This is looking for general information and are usualy at the start of the buying cycle. I had a client that wanted his web design site to rank for "web design" and i refused to do it for him, I put him up for phrases that has qualities that hint of someone looking for a designer and now he turns clients away.

This is why adwords breaks the bank for most people and they have poor at best conversions.


the key to internet sucess in a nutshell is getting the "Right" visitors. Brad Callen's website "myweddingfavors.com" is a prime example.