CB vs, CJ - Really that much diff? Which is better & Why?

[ncmedia]

This topic might be overdone, sorry in advance if it is.

1. I'm a publisher within a few networks, currently utilizing most of my slate with clickbank before branching out. I'm looking at CJ but hearing some not so great things about it, before I put my foot in my mouth I want to hear from other publishers that perhaps utilize both.

2. What's the full setup-fee/process. CB=$50 per product setup to show in their marketplace, otherwise you can add 500 products under 1 account. Also - are there any ongoing fees either monthly/annually/etc. I have 4 products in mind to bring over, what kind of damage i$ that?

3. How many points do they take? I hear 30%, correct? If so does it come off the total price, the aff portion or the merch portion?

4. CB is only 1-tier, I need at least 3, is CJ multi-teared? I hear affiliates must apply and can be screened and rejected - seems odd, can you smell a spammer that far away? Is their system full of holes hence they need this protection? With CB anyone promotes anything.

5. Does CJ encourage you to stay in contact with your affiliates and vice-versa? I love training and making n00bs into pros however with CB I cannot contact any of my affiliates through their system, and they do this for security, which i see as a wise step for them, but poor for vendors as we manually aggregate/train/centralize/retain outside their environment.

6. Does anyone here ever act as a liason? I would potentially be interested in having able bodies help recreate the network of products I run for use with CJ and perhaps paydotcom as they are multi-tier... Perhaps there are others as well that can address all of the above, feel free to suggest them.

7. Do any of you publishers have your products on more that 2 aff networks? i.e. if I had all my products on CJ, CB and PDC, what could be the drawback other than splitting my aff groups into 3 learning curves from my main aff resource center?

Thanks in advance, and I hope this thread will help other publishers as well that have been on the fence about these networks.

Norb.

[Linda Buquet]

CB and CJ are not really in the same category at all.
CB is more for info products and CJ is more for retail products like computers, shoes, luggage and pay per lead programs like insurance.

If you are doing info products CJ won't be cost effective.
It's 5,000 set up, they take 30% of what you pay affiliates,
plus there's a 500 min you have to pay. It's only one tier also.

Thats just a few random answers to your Qs but I suspect that knocks CJ out of the ballpark.

More than 2 tiers is MLM and not affiliate marketing.
The strong affililiates would rather make more themselves than recruit,
so I'd put more into 2 tiers and forget 3.

[ncmedia]

Thanks, I'm aware they have a bigger setup - however is that per product? 30% is quite a bit but I'd like to know where it comes off. I do agree that while mlm or three+ tiers is not considered am, it's still m. however yes 2 tiers would be ideal, and so far paydotcom seems too wonky. CJ does have info products despite MOST being tangeable, however with that $5000, is it per product/domain or for the whole account which houses everything. Even the ability to have it on both is still worth the 5K imo, as well as the 30% if overall it's bringing me more sales and broader aff reach than I currently have (which is actually nice however limits me to one network - CB affiliates tend to be quite young and 90% are newbies, god bless them but not having experience with brand development or multi level campaigns or access to resources within their slate - really shows in most of their performance)...

Ideally, CB, CJ and in-house is the problem I'm looking to have/solve...

If there is anyone that provides or has great contacts with in-house systems?

Norb.

[Ginene]

What is CB?

[Larwee]

Ginene, CB stands for ClickBank. CJ is for Commission Junction.

[Ginene]

Oh ok thanks. I guess I need to look around the forum for CB and read up on it.

Thanks