I came accross an area where some guy actually had the audacity to say, and I quote "It makes me sick to my stomach to see these people (newbies) think that for no money invested (because he wants them to buy his ebook)...they are still are looking for the EASY way out." They guy went on to demean people who don't buy ebooks, basically saying that if they are not willing to make an investment in a "great" ebook (of course, that would be his), then they are basically not interested in growing their business...
With this type of predatory selling, it is no wonder that several uniformed people were in agreement, and I have no doubt, many newbies have visited his site for more info...
Needless to say, I couldn't keep my mouth shut
This is one of a million areas where newbies are getting taken advantage of, and it certainly "makes me sick" to see it...
I have been lead to a couple forums that just plain allow horrible information to be broadcast to new businesspeople, with no regard to their new readers.
If you are new to this business, stick to this forum, as you will learn a lot. You can also rest assured that these guys jump all over predatory sellers, unlike some of these other so called "forums"...
An average newbie would have to pay for ten $70 ebooks before they find one that will truly help their business. Obviously, everyone will make the ebooks sound phenominally usefull when they are selling em'.
Why do that, when they can research in a forum like this for half the time and a third the expense?
Have a great day, and thanks for pointing that out!!!
Thanks for the lively bantering! I am beginning to feel that much can be learned right here.
My bottom line is, yes, there is no "get rich easy way in" but there are ways to make some real money right? So I would love to just take off on the right path, put time in on something that is PROVEN to work.
How is a newbie to know just what that is? How does one not waste time and money going down the wrong path?
"So I would love to just take off on the right path, put time in on something that is PROVEN to work. How is a newbie to know just what that is?"
If there was one proven path that worked everyone would be doing it and it would not work for anyone any more. For the most part if something works really well people are going to keep it to themselves - UNLESS of course they are trying to sell you an ebook.
I've heard a couple super affiliates lately say FAIL fast and FAIL hard. Because the best way to find the path that will work for you is by learning what doesn't work through your own mistakes.
I know that's probably not what you wanted to hear but there truly is no magic bullet.
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Unfortunately, Linda hit the nail on the head. It is very difficult to sort through what is being "pushed" from a sales standpoint, and what is legit. online.
Here is one thing that may help: When you are researching, whatever it may be...Let's say you are looking for information on how to market your website, as that seems to be the most common area when it comes to online business. What you need to find is the "common denominator". In other words, find several answers from several people to one basic question, and go with the suggestions that are most common. Try to find those answers on a heavily monitored forum, such as this. There aren't a whole lot, but you will know because people who are pushing sales get banned/or cut off so people like yourself do not get mislead. 99% of everything you will be asked to purchase, will not be necessary, so do not get emotionally attached to advertisements. I have personal associates who have found themselves wrapped into putting the cart ahead of the horse...Why? Because they truly felt they "needed" the items to get more business, and it just ain't true...
If you have a question, just ask it...
And go with your gut. If you feel someone is pushing something for purchase, chances are, you don't need it.
Good luck, and be prepared to fail quite often. The nice thing is that if you ain't spending, your just losing time and gaining knowledge.
My hat goes off to this thread and the meaningful discussion going on here. I'm learning a lot from it!
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Originally Posted by Linda Buquet
I just feel newbies need to be warned about things, because there are so many sharks out there trying to take advantage of them.
These guys STUDY the emotional triggers that are going to make desperate newbies who want to believe in the dream of quick easy money, want to buy. The entire sales process of those long sales letters is NOT designed to sell or explain the product but to get in the heads of the newbies, tell them what they want to hear, to get them to pull out their credit cards.
Yeah, exactly, there are people who pry on the fears of desperate buyers. And to me this seems so unethical, but I guess that's business. I think there should be a free viral eBook on how to overcome the need to buy viral eBooks (that pry on such fears) lol. Maybe then those people would go out of business.
Its quite true, the free guides that litter the internet are better of. I have bought many clickbank affiliate guides trust me i didn't learn anything new. I am sorry to say this but you are better off, finding it out on your own, you find out what works for you best.
Basically, don't trust anybody...Not me, not anyone, until you have done some serious researching, and have built up some relationships with potential business providers...
Forums like this are a very good place to begin, but remember. Everyone, even the moderators and myself (sorry guys) are trying to sell you on some item or service. Certainly doesn't mean that the products won't work for your business, but you need to feel out everything from pricing, reviews (not on their website or affiliates, as they will always be good), competitor products, etc...And most importantly, you need to ensure that it is a Necessity to doing business when you are new to online business. I have seen more than one person get forced into putting the cart ahead of the horse, and end up filing bankruptcy...
Yeah, that's good advice not to trust people until you can verify what they are suggesting in one way or another. I find that many blogs I visit are trying to sell something to me, either directly or indirectly in their writing. It could be a product, a service, or it could an idea that a particular community holds. The trick is seeing how that motive to sell is affecting the material, or if it is just on the sidelines of the important stuff being said.
I find that there are some people though who don't try to get you to buy something at every turn they get. It's refreshing that this forum isn't set up that way, and there are some people who genuinely want to give things for free.
Of course the blogs are trying to sell you something. It's called "bum marketing". This is how many people are pushing affiliate products, they have a landing page and write articles and blogs to sell products. It's free and all you have to do is write.
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