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Old 05-26-2008, 08:41 AM
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Hi Shoukei,

You can try promote a few products of the same niche. It is better that these products are related to each other. If you are promoting cooking ware, you can promote recipe as well.

3 weeks is still short in the business but it doesn't mean the longer you stay in the business the more you earn either.

What you need to do now is to get clear of the basics. What I did was get the niche, product and website and build my list. Be prepare that no one sign up for your list initially. You need to continue with what you are doing to draw traffic to your site.

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Old 05-26-2008, 11:15 AM
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shoukei asked:

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"I'll try to focus on one niche. Can I promote a few products of the same niche? Or do I focus on promoting only ONE product per niche first?"
Yes it's fine to promote related products or even the same type of products from different merchants as long as they are related to the niche. Just be sure you aren't offering so many things you confuse the visitor and they don't buy anything.

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"I've been into affiliate marketing for at least 3 weeks already and I think all the conversion tricks are not working and I haven't earned anything. So, is it advisable if I leave all I've done so far aside and start with one new niche, one new product and one new website?"
It's important to realize that the time you've worked is irrelevant to some degree it's how much TARGETED traffic you've gotten and how many clicks.

On average it can take 1,000 clicks to get your 1st sale. After you learn the ropes it should me more like 100 - 200 clicks to make a sale. However depending on how targeted your traffic is and how good your ad placement is it could take 100,000 visitors to get your 1st 1,000 clicks.

SO THEREFORE some affiliates could make their 1st sale in 1 month, some affiliates it could take 3 months to get that much traffic.

So my strong guess is you probably haven't gotten enough traffic to even guess if you should give up on what you've already done.

How many many visitors and clicks have you gotten so far?


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Domain name: h ttp://example.com/
Pre-sell page: h ttp://example.com/dogfood (this is just an example)

Is that appropriate for a pre-sell page? And you said its better to have 1 or 2 keywords in the domain name. Can the example above do?
h ttp://example.com/dogfood NO example.com is the domain name, /dogfood
is just the page name.

Ideally here is how you want to structure (however a million ways to do it, this is just a common and easy way to explain.)

If I were starting out and therefore was not real sure what products or offers I'd be running and did not wanted to be able to buy just 1 domain to save cost. I would very carefully research the niche.

Then I would get a domain name with the KW in the domain, but a name broad enough to cover other related topics.

Example if your 1st idea was dogfood and you got the domain bestdogfood.com that's so specific that if your dog food idea didn't work out you really could not use the domain for much else. HOWEVER if the broader niche you are interested in is DOGS, then you could get a domain like bestdogcareproducts.com Then you could have a page about dogfood at bestdogcareproducts.com/dogfood.html and focus on that to start, if that was your main niche idea.

But if dogfood didn't work or after you learn the ropes and want to expand, you could also branch out and have sections for dog toys, dog treats, dog illnesses and prescriptions, dog training with ebooks, etc. You would not just be limited to dog food.

Does that make sense?
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:53 PM
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That does make a lot of sense. I'm currently promoting betting systems and my domain just doesn't fit the products at all. I'm not into betting but I picked that niche because I was doing things according to the affiliate ebook guides that tried to convince me that some affiliates convert their products very well although they know nothing about them.

I'm thinking of starting over. Is that a good idea? By the way, can you fill me in on how to make a credible pre-sell/ landing page so that I can build my email list?
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Old 05-26-2008, 06:51 PM
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Oh if it's betting you're in, then yes, get out. It's way too competitive and filled not only with pro marketers but sharks. You can't even hope to compete.

"By the way, can you fill me in on how to make a credible pre-sell/ landing page so that I can build my email list?"

If you are talking a pre-sell page to build your list, sounds like you are working more on the ebook or info product side of things. I don't work on that side of things so wouldn't be much help.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:22 AM
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I'll find something better for a niche then. Thanks for the advice.

Actually I thought the email list technique wasn't gonna work but I've heard a lot of affiliates, not just from the guide ebooks but also from this forum, say that it's a good thing to build an email list because that is where most of the earnings come from. It's ok if you can't help me with that but please let me know if there is someone who can help me with opt-in pages and email list making.

By the way, when will the Site Review Forum be accessible again?
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:26 AM
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shoukei, reviews of gambling related sites isn't allowed. The Request Site Review Forum is available here at the following link: http://affiliate-marketing-forums.5s...t-site-review/
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Oh no. Of course not. I know gambling related site are prohibited. I'm currently finding a new niche which I can start over with.

Besides, the betting systems niche, I also promoted online downloading service for iphones, wii and stuff like that websites. Any comments about that niche for a newbie?

Thanks for the link to the review site.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:08 PM
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"No the 1st step is finding your niche. Then check to make sure there are affiliate programs with products to sell that would appeal to that niche. Don't join any yet, just research."

According to the above quotation from a previous post by Linda, it looks like I can access the marketplace of affiliate programs without signing up. Does anyone know how to access Commission Junction's marketplace without signing up?

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Old 05-27-2008, 10:36 PM
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No sorry, what I meant is what I thought I said. Join CJ, but don't join any affiliate programs that are in CJ right away. Just use the CJ marketplace for research to start.

The reason I say that is a lot of programs won't approve you until you have a site and you need to do research to find a niche before you can build a site.
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Hi Shoukei,

You do need a website for CJ.

I think your online download service can be a good niche. Few things you need to address:

1. How long it takes for the same person to come back and download something else? This is where your repeat sales come from.

2. How frequent the contents are updated so that there are new downloads for your visitors?

3. How much is per download and how much you earn per download?

4. Do you personally download the contents?

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