How long does it take you guys to develop your niche?
If you guys could so kind, as to share your experience in how long it takes on average from the time you pick a niche, to the time you turn a profit, or pull the plug and move unto the next niche.
Say for example that you have done a lot of research and found a great niche and you decide to go for it. How long does it take to get into the "game". Second, how long does it usually take to turn a profit or until you decide that it's just not going to work and pull the plug on it?
I've had some niches turn a profit in two days and others take two weeks. Then I've had some that are just worthless. The key is to test with out doing a massive amount of work. Pick two or three niches at one time do some redirects to affiliate pages. They are eventually going to get to the products sales page anyway so why not send them straight there to begin with and see how it converts.
You can do this with articles, building rss feeds from those articles, dropping answers at yahoo answers and wikki answers. Once you know if it converts or not then start building your supporting pages and a landing page.
As far as when do I know a product is a dump? If I go about 600 hops and I don't see a sale, then I'm not promoting it any more. But up until that point I haven't done anything but the above to it so it's ok. You never know, because some times you may get lucky and still get a sale out of it later down the road. Because the content you already put up is still going to be there.
Some niches you won't get 1 sale out of 200 hops and then the next day that same niche will get you 3 sales out of 75 hops. It just all depends on who's in the mood to pull out their card that day.
Yes, it's kind of a gamble no matter which way you look at it. Sometimes something you least expect to go over will surprise you while something you fully expect to hit a jackpot with totally fail. Basically, you just never know until you give it a good try. But don't ever let that stop you because you just never know!!
My favorite quote for affililate marketing is short and sweet: "Never, ever, ever, quit". Winston Churchill
Mate the truth is it can 24hrs or 24 days.
Of course it depends on your niche, i mean thats a given but it will also depend on how willing you are to go after it will advertisement. If its something you believe will profit then you want articles posted on many different sites, set up a web page, jump on squidoo get in to some forums. The more advertising the more chance you have of getting some coin.
BUT first of all you need to find the best angle of your niche followed up secondly by relevant keywords.
Give me a yell below for some more tips.
Hello:
Go to ODP - Open Directory Project. Why? There are over 500,000 niches right there! While there are lots of things to know about affiliate marketing, the different variables, finding niches is relatively easy. Although the categories start out broad, to answer your question, you don't want to go for the larger niches but rather the smaller sub niches. Here is where you get your smaller groups that are better to target because these groups are looking for much more specific items to fill their needs. They are much less competitive than broader larger niches.
At dmoz.org if you click on a category instantly you may have tons of sub-niches in front of you. If you don't then it's probably a good bet that this broad niche may not be a good choice but if you find lots of sub-niches then that alone tells you that there is lots of interests in the smaller sub-niches and so you dig a little further. O.K.
I just clicked on computers at dmoz.org, guess what? Instantly I found well over 50 sub-niches just like that. Some of these sub-niches have anywhere from a couple of hundred to tens of thousands of mini niches in them. What do you suppose that means? These are less competitive products that have their own audiences that you know are very active. Now how long did that take? Anyhow I went a little further I clicked on computers, software tons of stuff there, graphics. There I found a category for 3-D graphic tools!!!
After clicking on several of the 3-d graphic tool selections and running them through google until I found a product Digital Light and from the drop down from that several times I found "digital light meter for photography". There were 6-7 sponsered ads for this product. I'll monitor this for a few days to see how the ads do and if they stay or increase I'll have a good idea of whether I want to see what it sells for or if there are specific brands of this product that sells good etc. If the commission is good and are handled by a reputable source I may build a page around it targeting the audience that is known to use this item.
Point is you can find very profitable sub-niches and mini-sub-niches and target audiences that have very little competition and earn great money. Don't bog yourself down making it harder than it has to be. Keywords? go to Seodigger.com after you have a couple of top SE placement sites pushing this product, type in the site and look at the keywords that they rank for to get on the right track for keywords to rank for for your page.
Salamei...when you find a niche like this, do you set up a site even though you may not know much about "digital light photography?" I always thought I had to write in a niche where I was an expert.
I always thought I had to write in a niche where I was an expert.
DrMarie,
For newbies I recommend starting with a niche you know about and are passionate about. It's so much easier to get started and also easier to stay interested and motivated to generate content, even in the beginning when not much revenue is coming in.
However once you know the ropes, know how to research and evaluate a niche, know how to pick the right affiliate programs and are skilled at a variety of marketing methods, THEN you can pretty much pick whatever niche makes sense all around.
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Salamei...when you find a niche like this, do you set up a site even though you may not know much about "digital light photography?" I always thought I had to write in a niche where I was an expert.
Hi DrNarie:;
Thanks for the reply.I have my favorite niches that I'm passionate about but my main point was that it doesn't take a long time and there are other avenues that you can pursue to find great niches.
To answer your question, I build relevant landing pages for any product I select to sell after I research it a little more. After I find a niche market that I think may pan out I research the forums concerning the product to see just what needs surround the product. that also helps target an audience as well.
If it's worth pursuing further, good commissions, great audience, sponsored ads are doing well, which brings up another point, that being you can keep an eye on sponsored ads to get some indication of how well a product might be doing.
If an ad or 2 is consistently in the sponsored section for a week or 2 then you may want to take a look at the sites that these ads are associated with an kinda see what audience that they are catering to in that digital light photography category. Obviously I may have gotten a little deep with this but my reason is that so many people want to find profitable niches and think that it takes a long time to do but realistically it doesn't. Sundays paper is a good place to look. see what's hot sellers for christmas, I say that because of the time of the year. follow trends. take notice of people around you and you may even pick up on some fads in clothing, shoes etc.
A simple page a couple of articles surrounding some relavent keywords will get your page listed if done right. Generally a 400-500 page article with the keywords in the title and every 100 words thereafter throughout your article submitted to a couple top directories like ezine articles, go articles etc. When doing your keyword research on google do it in "quotes". If results come back
less than 5,000 then you have a very good chance of a first page placement. I do it all the time. First page placements means free traffic. The right keywords means targeted traffic. whatever keywords you use thats going to be your audience. so choose wisely. this stuff can get deep!!
But like Linda says the easier ones for newbies are the ones that you know stuff about. Stuff I don't know about I research up on it some so that I at least know a little about it.
If you're going to draw visitors and you want to convert a relevant landing page is key.
I hope I don't get into trouble for writing long replies (lol)
If you guys could so kind, as to share your experience in how long it takes on average from the time you pick a niche, to the time you turn a profit, or pull the plug and move unto the next niche.
Say for example that you have done a lot of research and found a great niche and you decide to go for it. How long does it take to get into the "game". Second, how long does it usually take to turn a profit or until you decide that it's just not going to work and pull the plug on it?
Thanks!
Only ever pulled the plug on one niche and that was when I was a newbie
With knw how you'll find that you can make some money from almost every niche you decide on. As long as you do your research accurately
Takes about 3 to 6 months to turn a profit if you run with it.
Thanks for the reply.I have my favorite niches that I'm passionate about but my main point was that it doesn't take a long time and there are other avenues that you can pursue to find great niches.
To answer your question, I build relevant landing pages for any product I select to sell after I research it a little more. After I find a niche market that I think may pan out I research the forums concerning the product to see just what needs surround the product. that also helps target an audience as well.
If it's worth pursuing further, good commissions, great audience, sponsored ads are doing well, which brings up another point, that being you can keep an eye on sponsored ads to get some indication of how well a product might be doing.
If an ad or 2 is consistently in the sponsored section for a week or 2 then you may want to take a look at the sites that these ads are associated with an kinda see what audience that they are catering to in that digital light photography category. Obviously I may have gotten a little deep with this but my reason is that so many people want to find profitable niches and think that it takes a long time to do but realistically it doesn't. Sundays paper is a good place to look. see what's hot sellers for christmas, I say that because of the time of the year. follow trends. take notice of people around you and you may even pick up on some fads in clothing, shoes etc.
A simple page a couple of articles surrounding some relavent keywords will get your page listed if done right. Generally a 400-500 page article with the keywords in the title and every 100 words thereafter throughout your article submitted to a couple top directories like ezine articles, go articles etc. When doing your keyword research on google do it in "quotes". If results come back
less than 5,000 then you have a very good chance of a first page placement. I do it all the time. First page placements means free traffic. The right keywords means targeted traffic. whatever keywords you use thats going to be your audience. so choose wisely. this stuff can get deep!!
But like Linda says the easier ones for newbies are the ones that you know stuff about. Stuff I don't know about I research up on it some so that I at least know a little about it.
If you're going to draw visitors and you want to convert a relevant landing page is key.
I hope I don't get into trouble for writing long replies (lol)
I just get so excited when I can help!!!!!!!
Cheers,
Salamei
I should also mention that you could direct link to a product page if available but those are not as good as one that you yourself may build. Fact is some of those product pages that comes ready made get terrible quality scores if you use Google to gauge their relevance to the keywords, and content thereof. Also your page won't be unique in that tons of other people maybe using that same page over and over again which is like duplicate content to Search Engines. One thing that stands out when using serach engines is "Originality" Uniqueness. Something different, new! Get a domain name, something relevant and not necessarily so tight, so you can use other pages with it, and a unique page, nothing spectacular, just presentable, appealing and relevant content and I've seen page quality scores jump from a 3 or 4 to excellent. I generally build a page for all my products if for no other reason to be unique. Just for testing though using article marketing to help establish who is looking and who is buying.. The buyers are the stats I'm after, (get those stats from your server) You are after the stats that keeps track of the keywords typed in to get to your page. Find the buyers if you are making acceptable sales, build a PPC campaign, page, around each audience that
purchases and check to see how well it does.
How long does it take you guys to develop your niche?
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