Need help with SEO numbers - KeyWord Popularity vs Competing Pages?

[jcorkern]

There area bunch of steps that would do that, and this is where the allintitle/content and url come into play. Since links from pages with your targeted keywords in the title/content and url carry more weight this is a factor you need to look at. Then the PR of the page the links come from.

How many outbound links are on the page where your link is affects the value also. Then the anchor text, which is very important. IP addresses are also a factor, the more links from any IP adress makes the links less valuable.

You can do this with a pen and paper checking out the comps backlings and visiting the pages they have links from, or, if you are planning on this being you main source of income, invest in some SEO software. It will be money well spent.

[minstrel]

Originally Posted by Linda Buquet

The total # of competing pages is not the best way to evaluate KW volume, as those are pages that just happen to mention the KW anywhere on the page and may not be pages that are actually very hard to compete with. It also may include lots of pages that arent even about your niche directly.

So once you think you have a good key phrase search for Key phrase

Then check for "Key phrase" in quotes which will only show pages with that specific phrase

then check allintitle: "key phrase" which only shows pages that have the keywords in the title of the page which gives you a better idea of actual competition.



Now you can look at the top listings in the allintitle search to see what they are doing to get up high and see if it would be hard to beat them. Check to see if the top listing are dominated by big authority sites or smart small marketers and affiliates that have lots of links or what. Sometimes you can find a niche that appears to have some competition but once you drill down and look you can see that there really isn't very stiff competition.

HERE'S a great example of a key phrase someone used as an example in a marketing video I watched for some product they were trying to sell.

canon G7 camera (broad match) 1.4 million competing pages (looks too competitive at 1st glance.)
canon G7 camera - Google Search

He drilled down with his KW tool to find "canon G7 price" (in quotes) only 145 competing pages. HE WAS ABLE TO GET IN THE #2 SPOT with a little SQUIDOO PAGE!

Here's the search page:
"canon G7 price" - Google Search

Here's his little Squidoo page which comes up #2 for me.
Canon G7 Price on Squidoo

Excellent summary!

I do think a good basic starting place is to check out the compeition pages including a view source on those pages to see what they're doing and obtain hints for how you might modify your own pages to rank better. This won't necessarily give you your best keywords, since ranking is dependent on so many factors these days in all search engines, but it may lead you to havd a look at components that you're not currently utilizing.

I haven't explored Squidoo at all as yet but your post would indicate that perhaps I should take a look at it...

[matthewferry]

It could be targetted it could be the density of the competitors keywords

Originally Posted by Klaas Koopman

Hi All,

I found a few keywords that with some programs say it gets searched 50,000 a month and google gives 4,000,000 search results.

Is this something I could target or is it being targetted by to many already?

Kind Regards,

K. Koopman

[chyneclicks]

Originally Posted by matthewferry

It could be targetted it could be the density of the competitors keywords

Yes that is right. It could always be the density of the competitors keyword. As always whenever I search for a certain keywords and it brings in less than 30 thousand results I dig it in and go compete for that keyword.

[DMCyrus]

Originally Posted by Linda Buquet

Since you are so hugry for knowledge, I wanted to share some videos I just watched. One of these videos was the one I referred to in the Canon example.

Its trying to sell a fairly new product called Micro Niche Finder.
I'm not suggesting you buy it, although I have read pretty good reviews.

Just watch the videos because it will give you some great insight and most of
what it shows could be done manually, it would just take more elbow grease.

[link removed so I could post this] Watch the very top video just to get an idea, [link removed so I could post this]Micro Niche Fi
then if you learn something from that and want to learn more watch the others.

Thanks Linda, for all your great posts. Looks like I may learn a lot here. Hopefully without any information overload, which I tend to do from time to time.

[tbarntsen]

wow , very impressive LINDA
and at least i know the total # of competing pages does equal KW volume.
thanx indeed

[dieseldave]

is there any tool can help me to get that data??

i mean how to judge the competiting page ?